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Fanfest 2011 – Day 2
5 AM local time
Another round of pushups. I could feel my muscles cramping. What the hell was wrong with me?
7 AM local time
Enjoyed eight plates of breakfast. There’s just something to be said about a buffet, whether it’s good or bad, it’s limitless food.
9 AM local time
The snowball hit me in the back of the head. The Gallente station had gone with a winter climate for this gathering of capsuleers; an odd choice I thought.
I could feel the snow running down the collar of my jacket, melting against the heat of my back. My face contorted as I spun to face my assailants; a group of playing children. I was barraged with another volley of snowballs, but managed to dodge most of them, gathering up the snow around me. It was perfect for packing. I ran my bare hands around and around, hardening the snow into ice; if they wanted to gank me, they were going to pay.
Fifteen minutes later it was me in full retreat. Children just don’t know when to give up, let it go and go home. Within that context, Goonswarm suddenly made a little more sense.
I walked along the station promenade, casually shopping for anything that caught my attention. There was a festive shop with two attractive employees; my attention was caught. I walked inside. By the time I had left, not only had I learned about the local winter festival tradition involving a mountain witch that would come and snatch you as a child if you were bad all year (and cook you in her stew), but I learned about the thirteen yulelads, a group of mischieveous yet good hearted elves – candle beggar, door sniffer, shoe stealer and other equally fun filled names. I even purchased a candle beggar tree ornament by the time I was done.
My NeoCom buzzed. “You’re go with Roc.” I said. It was something I heard recently on a local talkshow, and I found it hysterical, so had started answering my NeoCom that way. So far, I don’t think anyone had any idea what the hell I was talking about, which made it even more entertaining to me.
“What? Why would I know that? Fine. Yeah, there’s one nearby, hold onto your ass a sec.” My crew chief had called. He wanted to know if the rumours of high fuel prices in this region was true, and I hadn’t been bothered to look. I did so then, and man, those were the highest fuel prices I had ever seen. I conveyed my sentiment to my crew chief. He whistled through the NeoCom. “Yeah, it would cost a pretty isk to refuel here. Makes me happy I’m not a civilian. Ok, well technically I am, but you’re missing my point. No, I get that, I’m just saying. Ok, you know what? I’m hanging up now. You take care and I’ll …” He had hung up on me. Jackass.
I spent most of the day taking in the history and culture of the region through various station tours, as well as doing a lot of research gathering of things that would probably remain best left unsaid.
My evening was meant to be a relaxing visit to a thermal pool, accompanied by the most beautiful woman I had ever laid eyes on, even though it’s important that every woman you’re with believes that. I did manage to spend some time with her, and it was well worth it, but ultimately duty called.
There were several pilots getting together at a local pub, and they had invited me along. Who was I to say no to a night of free beer and cigars?
My pool date agreed to go back to my hotel room and wait for me there, and I headed for the pub. It was the best decision I had made all day. It was as if I had been transported to the land of free flowing blondes and thigh high boots.
Seriously ask any pod pilot there about Rachel. Garters, thigh high boots, tall … I saw more than one pilot crash and burn attempting to engage her in conversation. I chuckled from where I stood at their failed attempts, and continued to engage in several conversations I was enjoying on the back porch, all the while enjoying a good cigar or two.
3 AM local time
Eventually, the night came to an end and I staggered back to my room. I had forgotten I had a lovely there waiting for me. She was passed out in the bed. I stank of booze and smoke, so like any well-mannered Brutor, I splashed some water on my face, rinsed my mouth, then climbed in naked beside her. Being the romantic I am, I gently caressed her arm, and as she responded, gently waking up and reciprocating, I had to forcefully restrain myself from puking.
I quickly made my to the bathroom, focused on some deep breathing, drank a few glasses of water. Once I had calmed down and was sure that what was down was staying down, I headed back to the bed.
She had fallen asleep.
I gently caressed her arm, hoping to pick up where things had left off. She woke up a little, and spoke to me lovingly,
“Don’t even think about it.”
I rolled over on my back. You’re getting old, Roc, I thought to myself. Can’t even your beer. My thoughts were interrupted by the rush of chunks to the back of my throat, and I ran for the bathroom again.
It was going to be a fantastic night.
Fanfest 2011 – Day 1
I’d been in small ships before, hell, a Rifter was my favourite to fly. But damned if this shuttle wasn’t the smallest ship I’d ever been in. I’m broad shouldered but not particularly tall; even still I couldn’t stand up straight on board the shuttle. It was very claustrophobic. I was accustomed to being attached to the ship, being a part of the ship, feeling every nuance the ship felt. Being so disconnected left me feeling nauseous and disoriented. I was a horrible passenger.
Seriously? I thought to myself as the pilot announced yet again that we would remain docked as the first stop in our journey, Amamake, was experiencing unusual levels of hostilities and was not deemed currently safe for civilians to fly into. Amamake was such a shit hole.
I took a small pill to ease my stomach; I’m sure the publicity of a capsuleer puking aboard a civilian shuttle due to motion sickness wasn’t something my career needed.
Two and a half hours later we were cleared to undock. I was worried I would miss my connecting flight. I had said before, and I was thinking it again, I should just fly myself there next time. It wasn’t often that so many capsuleers gathered in one place, and Concord was always leery of potential hostilities, hence why we all arrived on commercial flights. It was humbling, embarassing, and as I reached my hand to my mouth, unsettling.
I had at least hoped for an in flight movie to distract myself. No such luck. I moved around uncomfortably, my ass completely numb from the seat; I was really yearning for the warm embrace of my pod. Ah well.
I waved my arms above my head as we rocketed out of the station, screaming at the top of my lungs like on a roller coaster at a theme park. The other passengers didn’t appreciate that at all, but I thought it was funny as hell.
My ears popped as the cabin adjusted pressure. I had to ask for gum from the woman beside me. I really didn’t know how regular people endured this. It was so barbaic.
Paid 4 ISK for a small bag of dried fruit I thought was complimentary. The contents looked to be worth signficantly less, but I didn’t want to be embarassed in front of complete strangers. That’s how they got you methinks.
Met a pretty lady to travel with. Got annoyed once we had arrived at the 20 minute bathroom break she took. She was quick to explain it to me:
“We don’t get to just walk in, whip it out, do our business, and walk out you know!” she began with passionate irritation. I quickly realized my tactical error and tuned her out, all the while nodding and smiling.
“We have to go in, find the appropriate stall, you know, if there’s someone in one, you have to leave a gap of one stall if possible, depending on cleanliness; then you need to clean the seat, put down a seat liner, squat over it, do your business. From there we actually wash our hands, or change our panty liner if needed. It’s not easy being a woman!”
It’s not easy being a man listening to a woman. I smiled.
“I’m sorry it took me twenty minutes. I hurried so that I wouldn’t upset you, but you’re upset anyway, and somehow that’s my fault because it takes me longer to pee. Well, forgive me for being a woman!” she spewed sarcastically.
“You’re forgiven.” I said dryly, not playing into the self-pity. “Let’s go.”
As we stood at the customs security line, I had to laugh. The aging security personnel that gathered the containers for belongings was in full on rant mode: “3 – 4 at a time please. No need for one at a time or we’ll be here all day. C’mon folks, hurry it up!” I watched the woman I was with quickly succumb to the pressure, taking off her belt, shoes, jewellery, backpack, etc, and put them on the conveyor for security examination. I casually removed my belt and boots, leaving my ring, glasses and dogtags on. The metal detector didn’t make a sound. I sometimes wondered if the equipment actually worked or if it was all just to instill a sense of safety and process for the herd.
After I had made it through, the alarm on the system went off, not once, but twice. I guess it worked after all. I turned around to see what had triggered the alarm, and shook my head to myself upon realizing it was travelling companion.
She explained later that by feeling so hurried she had forgetten to remove her NeoCom and her water bottle, both prohibited items on flights, which she knew, and that if they were simply more efficient at their jobs instead of bullying innocent people, then things wouldn’t end up taking so long in the first place.
I nodded and smiled, though I did have words with one of the security personnel during the incident. They were all the same. “She’s with me.” I said, assuming that my rank would be evident to anyone with authority. He cast me a sharp glance and spoke, “I’m talking with her. When I’m done addressing her, I’ll address you. Understood?”
“Jack ass.” I replied, not quite under my breath, but not quite at normal volume.
“What did you say?” he replied. A part of me wanted to retort with sarcasm, to repeat my initial statement mour clearly, simply for the lesson in principle that would be taught. Unfortunately, I knew it would come at my own expense, and I was already delayed for my connecting flight.
“Just checking.” I replied sheepishly, much to the delight of the security officer.
Once things were sorted we quickly hurried to our connecting flight.
Just as passengers began boarding, my name was called on the loud speaker, so I went to the service desk to see what the trouble was. “We accidentally booked you into another passenger’s seat. Would you be ok with us switching your seat sir?”
“Yeah, whatever. So long as I get there, right?”
“Very good, sir. Thank you.”
Let me give you a life lesson on commercial flying, boys and girls. When an attendant asks you if you’d like to change your seat, and your seat is moderately decent to begin with, just say no. Seriously, it’s their problem, not yours; don’t worry about being the nice person in the situation.
I slowly made my way to the very last row of seats at the back of the plane, you know, the row directly in front of the shitter. From there, I squeezed my way to the window seat, trapped beside a fatter, taller man, who for some reason thought his elbows owned both arm rests and about six inches passed each.
I spent the next 5 hours hunched over, trying to fit in the seat, my shoulder too wide to comply, my rib cage protesting being constantly elbowed by the sleeping blob, all the while trying not to vomit every time a passenger needed to use the lavatory.
In short … worst flight ever.
I had no trouble checking into my accommodations and welcomed a quick nap.
OOC: Iceland, I am in you.
Roc’s Rule #333
Jealous implies you can’t have what you want.
Campaign Trail – CSM Profit
Thank you for your interest in my campaign to be part of CSM 6. It is my intention to work diligently, effectively, and tirelessly to bring the concerns of the player base to the CSM, to CCP, and back to the players.
The following is a user submitted request for my stand on a topic important to them. I have given thought to the topic and formulated my opinion, but it’s just that; my opinion. Nothing more. There is no guarantee the opinion expressed herein will ever see the light of day.
My platform isn’t one of issues, but rather one of integrity, tenacity, and the willingness to hold the CSM and CCP accountable to the players that support everything we do. I will not push my own agenda, unless it coincides with what the majority of the player base wants for a given topic.
Never start a fight you can win. #RocTheVote
QUESTION: There are many good candidates out there, some to be endorsed thoroughly. One to actively stand against is Roc Wieler. All he wants to do is take advantage of his role in CSM to monetize Capsuleer and profit in real life.
Capsuleer
I’ve said this will not be part of my campaign, but it just keeps rearing up its ugly head, so let’s put this to rest once and for all.
I was half of the team that brought Capsuleer to the players of EVE Online. My development partner, PyjamaSam, did all the coding. I did the design, user interface, marketing, promotions and was the public face of Capsuleer. I was also the one to deal in business negotiations with CCP and MMM.
Having said that, let’s be concise:
- Capsuleer is dead.
- Capsuleer will not be going open source. Why? You just don’t get open source. There is effort in choosing a licensing platform, as well as coding work to be done to be compliant with that licensing platform, and as I said, PyjamaSam was the coder, and he’s not going to do it.
- Capsuleer cannot be part of my campaign, nor my work in CSM because the reality of it is that I did not, nor can I, program Capsuleer. My understanding of Objective C is rudimentary at best, and I do not possess the personal means to do the coding necessary that was what made this product so great. PyjamaSam has moved on and has zero interest in CCP, Capsuleer, or Eve Online.
It has been pointed out to me by some of my supporters, and some of the naysayers, that my two posts on Third Party Apps and EVE API could be misconstrued as contrary opinions.
So let’s clear that up.
TL;DR
- IF CCP is to offer third party developers some form of licensing structure, it needs to apply to all third party developers, or to none. That is the only fair way to do it, though it comes with inherent risks to the intellectual property of CCP. MY POST
- I think the EVE API is great, even though there are many areas for improvement with it. I wholeheartedly support developers using the API, and know there are many talented developers out there doing great things with the API. This needs to be encouraged. That I would fight for as CSM. MY POST
Be Educated
Do not let others make your decisions for you. Do not listen to hearsay. Be responsible enough to make informed decisions either by talking directly to the candidates, or by following their Jita Park threads, or their blogs. Nobody likes second hand information. It cannot be relied upon.
So there you have it, straight from the horse’s mouth so to speak. I have no interest in profiting from CSM. In fact, I stand against such activity and I doubt CCP would even allow it to happen were someone to attempt such a thing.
Here’s hoping you learned something new about me today, if you were a doubter.
Ingame Chat Channel – Roc the Vote
I’ve been having many conversations since voting opened, and let me tell you, it’s tiring repeating yourself ad nauseum. It’s like nobody can be bothered to read your campaign posts; they’d rather just have you spoon feed them directly. Sigh.
To try to make things easier for both the voters and myself, I’ve started an ingame chat channel ‘Roc the Vote’. I will be posting times where I will be there to answer any campaign related questions to the best of my ability, whether through EVE Voice or typing.
I hope this will give players an opportunity to learn more about me, and my opinions of Eve Online.
CSM 6 Voting is now open
CSM 6 Voting is now open. I want to wish the best of luck to all the candidates in this election.
Campaign Trail – Direction
Thank you for your interest in my campaign to be part of CSM 6. It is my intention to work diligently, effectively, and tirelessly to bring the concerns of the player base to the CSM, to CCP, and back to the players.
The following is a user submitted request for my stand on a topic important to them. I have given thought to the topic and formulated my opinion, but it’s just that; my opinion. Nothing more. There is no guarantee the opinion expressed herein will ever see the light of day.
My platform isn’t one of issues, but rather one of integrity, tenacity, and the willingness to hold the CSM and CCP accountable to the players that support everything we do. I will not push my own agenda, unless it coincides with what the majority of the player base wants for a given topic.
Never start a fight you can win. #RocTheVote
QUESTION: I still believe in you, Roc, and great job on the LostInEve debate, but some of your campaign posts make you look stupid. Maybe you should stick with what you know?
Not infallible
Thanks for taking the time to contact me and express your praise and concerns, all in one breath! I’m not superhuman, despite the chronicles surrounding my past. I’m a regular guy, doing what he can to make a difference. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail, sometime I look like an idiot. I accept that.
I think if any candidate were to tell you they have all the answers, you should really wonder if they actually understand the questions.
CSM is a group of elected individuals, with diverse experience and knowledge, working together for the betterment of the game we all enjoy. Every individual will have different ideas on how to get there, but we all want the same thing in the end, a better EVE.
If elected to CSM, I guarantee you I won’t always be right. I promise I won’t always be the authority on every subject, but what I do know is this: I will be consistently dedicated to listening to the views of everyone, players, CSM, and CCP alike. Working towards a common goal is what CSM should be about.
Community
So let’s reinforce my mandate. I am all about community; always have been. I blog. Many read my blog. Many comment on my blog and engage in conversations on my blog. I tweet. Many talk with me through tweets. I write EON Magazine articles. I provide EVE inspired music to the community. I do artwork, free to download from my blog. I was the face of the Capsuleer iPhone application. I do podcast interviews. I attend Fanfest. I sign autographs. I give away small promotional items. I do what I can to stay an active and recognizable part of every player’s Eve Online experience. Of course, it’s pure arrogance that lets me think everyone has heard of Roc Wieler, but perhaps someday they will.
I do all of these things on my own time, and I’ve been consistent in doing them. It’s that consistency that shows my heart for this community.
There is strength in community. Players understand this. CCP needs to understand this. I’ve said it before: a game is only as good as its player base.
CCP, as a game producer, needs to start listening to its community or risk losing them. It’s as simple as that, and been proven in this particular industry time and again.
Direction
If we listen to community, the single biggest thing we’ll hear is a concern over lack of direction by CCP for the future of EVE Online. Mynxee and CSM 5 posted about it recently, and it’s not the first time we’ve had this concern as players. The general perception from the player base, and not really rebutted adequately by CCP, is the notion that CCP goes from one shiny to the next. Factional Warfare, Planetary Interaction, Incarna, Trinity, etc, etc… they were all very exciting opportunities that became one-offs, never to be heard of again.
I’ve heard from the CSM that CCP lacks clear direction. I’ve heard from other sources closer to CCP that they lack direction. I believe they lack direction. CCP needs to stop with the shinies. It can no longer be a matter of “What can we do next?”, it needs to be a series of long, hard looks at “Why should we do this?” and make decisions accordingly.
Even if I don’t get elected to CSM, I hope someone from CCP is reading this now. Please, mandate your future! Get it down on paper. Start with pie in the sky then work it down to the details as to how you can achieve these goals as an equitable company.
You need to do this, CCP. It is not optional.
My part? There is nothing I would enjoy more as part of the CSM than to have CCP engage us and ask us for opinions on future directions they’ve been entertaining. Open those lines of communication. Prove me wrong. Prove us wrong. Show us what’s up your sleeve for the next few years. We’re under NDA. We can’t say a bloody word.
Just work with us to re-instill the level of confidence we once had when CCP was a small, passionate shop with a single product they hoped would change the way things would be done in the gaming industry.
I still believe in that company. I still believe in that game. I still believe in this community.
Do what you believe is right. Vote Roc.
Blog Banter #25 – Unstoppable
Welcome to the twenty-fifth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week or so to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to crazykinux@gmail.com. Check for other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!
This month’s topic comes to us from @Tetraetc – “Tetra’s EVE Blog” – who asks: “Have Alliances and the sovereignty system limited the amount of PVP and RP potential in Null sec? Imagine a Null Sec where anyone could build outposts wherever. Would the reduction of the alliance game mechanic, and the removal of the sovereignty game mechanics (or the modifcation of it from Alliance level to Corp level for that matter) force more PVP into Null sec, or would giant power blocs like the NC still form themselves?”
I’ve always believed that New Eden should be a living, breathing, dynamic universe, unique in experience each and every day. There should be changes in politics, economy, sovereignty, and other social mechanisms just like the real world.
Jump Bridge changes, sovereignty changes, nullsec corridors, smaller alliance/corporation wars to establish and maintain footholds in the least friendly regions of New Eden? Sounds good to me.
It should take alliances more effort to control a smaller amount of space. There should not be large power blocs able to control most of the outer regions. Every corp/alliance should have the ability to inflict actual causality if they are coordinated and capable.
Having said that, the larger alliance will always have more dedicated people. Larger alliances will have more resources to pool. Inevitably this means larger alliances will control larger amounts of space.
In this way, it’s much like terrestrial warfare. The larger the army, the larger the population, the larger the money pool, the more physical space they cover.
- BB25 What sov changes will come? | A Mule In EvE
- Confessions of a Closet Carebear: Alliances and Sovereignty
- Blog Banter 25: Nerfing Nulsec « OMG! You’re a Chick?!
- Have Alliances and the sovereignty system limited the amount of PVP and RP potential in Null sec? | Nitpickin’s
- Blog Banter #25: Alliance and Sovereignty Limiting PvP in 0.0? | Sarnel Binora’s Blog
- Blog Banter #25 – Mad Haberdashers
- Alliances and sovereignty | Eve Online Focus
- …Shall we not Revenge?: BB 25: What if the Alliance vanished?
- Blog Banter: Alliances and Sov
- EVEOGANDA: BB25: Sov ‘n Go!
- » TBG:EBB#25 – Alliances and Sovereignty To Boldly Go
- Freebooted: BB25: Leviathans of the Deep
- Wrong Game Tetra ~ Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah
- EVE Blog Banter #25 – Human nature what art thou? | Way of the Gun
- Who cares about Sov? – Hands Off, My Loots! ~ well sorta like an entry! :p
- The 25th EVE Blog Banter: Alliances and sovereignty – The Phoenix Diaries
- Achernar: The space commute
- Wandering the Void…my EvE musings. – Blog Banter: Alliances and sovereignty
- (OOC) CK’s Blog Banter #25: How To Break EvE. « Prano’s Journey
- Captain Serenity: Blog Banter #25 – Crappy mechanics
- Helicity Boson » Blog Banter #25 Nullsec and sov.
- BB #25 – “With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven and Earth?”
- More to come…
Campaign Trail – BPO
Thank you for your interest in my campaign to be part of CSM 6. It is my intention to work diligently, effectively, and tirelessly to bring the concerns of the player base to the CSM, to CCP, and back to the players.
The following is a user submitted request for my stand on a topic important to them. I have given thought to the topic and formulated my opinion, but it’s just that; my opinion. Nothing more. There is no guarantee the opinion expressed herein will ever see the light of day.
My platform isn’t one of issues, but rather one of integrity, tenacity, and the willingness to hold the CSM and CCP accountable to the players that support everything we do. I will not push my own agenda, unless it coincides with what the majority of the player base wants for a given topic.
Never start a fight you can win. #RocTheVote
QUESTION: As a player who makes the majority of their income from limited edition T2 BPOs, I’m curious to know your views on them. Should they be changed? If so, how?
Loyalty Rewards
There are some that view limited edition T2 BPOs as “CCP Loyalty Points”, namely in the sense that if you haven’t been around the game long enough, chances are you don’t have access to limited edition T2 BPOs.
I believe in a company rewarding customer loyalty. In real life, nothing bothers me more than when a service I subscribe to offers very enticing deals to new customers only, completing neglecting the fact that I’m an existing and loyal customer.
In a game like EVE Online, the question for me is “Should this loyalty be rewarded giving long time player certain advantages?” As I have mentioned in my views on Microtransactions, the answer is no.
If CCP wanted to reward my five years of play by offering me limited edition clothing or room decorations in Incarna, items not available to younger players, so be it. I’d even be willing to go so far as to say that perhaps in the case of real life loyalty, maybe small advantages are ok (not being hypocritical, just being open minded), like a module with special bonuses, linked to my ship, not tradeable, not sellable. I don’t know, and that’s another discussion.
So do I think limited edition T2 BPOs should be removed? No. Do I think they should be changed? Yes.
Diminishing Returns
I think sweeping changes can be dangerous. Removing limited edition T2 BPOs completely and suddenly accomplishes nothing but alienating and frustrating your long time player base. We all become accustomed to how things are, and are more apt to accept incremental changes than grand ones.
To that end, I think limited edition T2 BPOs should be converted to high run BPCs. The icon would remain the same. The functionality would remain the same. The only difference would be that eventually the money printing machine that is limited edition T2 BPOs will run out.
An example would be to give high run BPCs an initial max run value of 100. Each of these BPCs would have a diminished max run value of 50. Each of those children would have a dimished max run value of 25. Each of those children would have a diminished max run value of 10 until they are in line with regular BPCs.
These are arbitrary numbers for illustrative purposes.
What we can see clearly is this: limited edition T2 BPOs would not be limitless, and therefore existing limited edition T2 BPO holders would need to carefully consider their pricing structure. The more rare high run BPCs become, the higher market prices will go for rare ship types. At the same time, limited edition T2 BPO holders are not unexpectedly cut off from their current means of income, but rather have the opportunity to adjust their business strategies to accommodate this change over time.
Seeding
I also believe that if limited edition T2 BPOs are converted to high run BPCs which will eventually become no more valuable than regular BPCs, there needs to be seeding of fresh high run BPCs. Is this accomplished by extending my Factional Warfare dynamic landscape idea to all areas of space, where only Tier 5 officers have a random chance of dropping a high run BPC? Maybe. Will invention offer a small chance of creating a high run BPC? Perhaps. I’m sure there are many great ideas for how to accomplish this.
Consequences
With any purposed change, there is always the need for game balance, requiring any idea to be examined from multiple angles, to determine what the trickle down impact would be across game play as a whole. How can it be abused? Does the benefit outweigh negative impact? Is it worth the time and resources, or are there more important and pressing issues to deal with?
Are high end BPCs the right solution to address the issue? They may be a good starting point, or they may not be. My point on every campaign issue is to offer an additional venue for discussion, even though there are many threads on the subjects already.
By exposing the issues on my blog, it is an opportunity for some who may not be aware of the issues to form their own opinion, do their own research. For others it is an opportunity to specifically see my point of view on a given issue and engage in intelligent debate as to why they agree, disagree, or wish to improve upon my opinion.
The CSM is not a group of amateur game developers. I qualify every one of these campaign posts stating they are merely opinions and conjecture, and that none of my ideas may ever see the light of day. To be blunt, some of my ideas may never even make to the CSM should I be elected, or if they do make it that far, the CSM as a whole may engage in debate and demonstrate why certain ideas are not the best solution for a given issue.
Ultimately, I just want players to know that I am willing to hear the issues, take input on the issues, give my opinions on the issues, communicate the issues, see how far they go, and return to the player base with valid communication and information regarding the issues that are important to them as a whole.
Truth is, as has been made evident, I don’t know much about this particular process and taking shots in the dark. In such a situation on the CSM, I would defer to those with more knowledge on the given subject, questioning where I thought appropriate.
ROC'S RAMBLINGS 